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by TameAntelope 1573 days ago
Either my suggestions lack specific action or crossing the border of another country will get you killed. One or the other, not both.

And if you don’t know what an insurgency is or how to run one, that’s on you to figure out. It is the only moral option if you’re Russian and want to stay in Russia.
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goldsteinq 1573 days ago
Your suggestions about revolution lack any specific actions, your suggestions about immigration are simply way to get killed.

“Lol just figure out how to overthrow heavily militarized government” is completely ignoring the obvious truth that this is simply impossible. It was probably possible some years ago with support from abroad, but the only thing international institutions cared about was cheap natural gas and oil, so they ignored violations of international law and treated Putin as a lawful president. So now we have decapitated opposition, silenced media (just today two independent media were banned) and 2% of Russians serving in police and military. It stops any seeds of revolution from ever growing.

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TameAntelope 1573 days ago
If you think it's impossible to overthrow the Russian government, then you should leave, and you will not be shot by border guards for illegally trying to leave Russia, that's completely wrong.

It sounds like you're comfortable where you are, and need to justify it to yourself that your country is using your consent to commit atrocities that you're ultimately okay with as long as you remain comfortable.

That's cowardice.

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goldsteinq 1573 days ago
How do you imagine nearly 150 million people, most of them very poor by European standards, leaving the country? Why do you even think this is a moral action?

Money used to invade Ukraine mostly comes from other countries buying Russian natural resources. If you want to stop the invasion, go and protest against _your_ government to make it stop buying Russian oil.

I’m staying so I can protest and try to sway the current governments intentions. It’s hard and dangerous, but it has more chances to succeed than overthrowing the government. I’m staying so I can help the protestors. I’m staying so I can actually _do_ something about the situation. Leaving the country is actually easy for me (unlike most Russian citizens), but I don’t think it’s the morally right action.

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TameAntelope 1573 days ago
You think 150 million people can act in unison to leave Russia, but cannot act in unison to fight to retake Russia?

I think that says a lot about how you really feel, and it's not good.

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