[crisdux]

This is horrifying to me but probably for a different reason. I'm tired of the general population being treated as pawns in this global game of empire. These people should not be risking their life. Our leaders screwed up and now citizens pay the price.

This war did not start 2 weeks ago. It is not the result of 1 man's actions. It's been going on for years but now it spilled into kinetic warfare. We are hardly any better than the kings and queens of yesterday, just look at all the actions being taken from western powers without any citizen input or democratic process.

Our opinions are being shaped on this conflict by our media, even on hacker news - people should be weary of all information they read on here regarding this conflict. People should try hard not to get swept up in tribal narratives and see the world for what it is.

In my opinion, the current system looks like its out of control and it's only going to lead to escalation. It almost certainly will lead to more nuclear proliferation. Confrontation with nuclear opponents need to be more cautious.

[agumonkey]

I have a mere feeling that ubiquitous internet is rendering some of the important factor of war mongering moot. There's less delay, no week long lag in which you can enrage and enroll young people to go die for some imaginary cause. And as spectators too, I see stuff that I could not see even in TV days.. invaded people talking with lost invaders. The failures. The moronic jokes of troops during idle time. The wait.. the absurd nothingness. It just feels like waste.. an absolute void.

There's still a fair amount of BS (both camps are painting their own view) but the feverish theatrics are somehow dying.

[tim333]

>tired of the general population being treated as pawns in this global game of empire

Well that's kind of what this conflict is about. Ukraine is anti the pawns and empire thing, Putin is for it.

Thankfully it's mostly dying out - I'm a Brit and we got rid of most of our empire around 1950. Putin's a bit behind the curve.