[washadjeffmad]

I'd separate that into two categories: consensus that "withholding content, breaking games up, or locking devices to stores to artificially create redundant sales" and "abusive monetization design where the game is mostly a flimsy pretext for their real product, a gambling addiction simulator" are reviled industry practices.

People like their stores and skins, they just don't want to have to gamble to get them or be tricked into pay-to-play.

I tried a popular mobile game for the first time recently and almost immediately uninstalled it. As a new player I was overwhelmed with freebies, but every action funneled me back to the store or demanded some kind of worthless interaction. I was horrified at the thought that I might ever allow myself to get used to it and just how many people already had.

[bluefirebrand]

> People like their stores and skins

Two types of people here, too.

Those who bought "Horse Armor" and those who thought it was the most ridiculous thing they had ever heard of.

Personally I dislike the move towards every game being a live service to justify the presence of a store with skins and emotes and such.

I'm getting sick of always online, seasonal event driven live service games where the game balance constantly changes and new stuff is funnelled into it constantly. It is such a relief to me when a game just is released in a mostly final shape, with maybe some QoL patches and an expansion dlc or two.

Destiny 2 ruined this for me in a big way with how they are not just introducing new content but also removing old content, content I paid for and now can never access again.

It has set a terrible precedent and I'm just not going to use my money on games like that anymore.

[p1necone]

> Destiny 2 ruined this for me in a big way with how they are not just introducing new content but also removing old content, content I paid for and now can never access again.

There are good reasons why this can be healthy for a game that's constantly evolving with new content and is intended to be live for like a decade+ like Destiny. By sunsetting old content periodically they have a much easier time balancing everything, and making sure the world is consistent. They can also do visual improvements over time without having to polish an ever increasing pile of old content.

See also: leagues in Path of Exile, set rotation in trading card games.

Destiny is an MMO, you should know going in that it's a live, evolving beast. Not something that you can rely on staying the same forever.

[washadjeffmad]

PoE leagues are exactly what I expected from Destiny 2, so I was pretty confused when I realized there wasn't a "main game" to go back to. Whatever you didn't accomplish during the season was lost when it ended, and nothing you worked to gain was guaranteed to be worth anything next time.

I suppose it was my first "MMO" because I certainly hadn't played anything with that type of model before.