[Azsy]

Germany was told to be supporting of pacifism by the Americans after WW2. But with the Americans signaling that they are no longer willing to play world police, a shift in that attitude is a matter of time.

> That is, it works as long as you don't have to face any real evil.

Also, lets not conflate national interests with good and evil. That's the propaganda talking.

[holbrad]

I think the sentiment that pacifism externalises the costs of dealing with violence to others, is spot on in both a personal and country context.