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by jaredcwhite 1568 days ago
React has hooks because React's "classes" were pretty crappy…partially due to crappy OOP in general in previous eras of ECMAScript. But instead of actually making their syntactical sugar better as JS' native OOP paradigm improved, they went the opposite direction. After having to use them in a large React codebase for years now, I still can't stand them.

For a look at a UI library that actually rocks precisely because it embraces OOP and the native object graph of the DOM, check out Lit. It takes everything that's awesome about browser-native web components, then simply adds some fabulous DX on top for reactive re-rendering upon prop updates. I've never used a UI library in my life that's meshed with my brain better than Lit. I'll take a good Lit-based web component class any day over React.
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orangepanda 1568 days ago
> After having to use [hooks] in a large React codebase for years now, I still can't stand them.

useEffect forcing you to clean up after yourself reminds me of RAII from C++. IMO, any "ugly" functional component with hooks is even worse when written as a class component.

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KronisLV 1568 days ago
> After having to use them in a large React codebase for years now, I still can't stand them.

I actually feel much the same way and have vented about some of my frustrations before: https://blog.kronis.dev/everything%20is%20broken/modern-reac...

However, that amounts to precisely nothing, because the industry has decided to use hooks moving forwards and they're basically inevitable, because even if you'd ever want to use something like class based components, the libraries that you'll try to use and integrate with will still make you use them sooner or later, because it's actually not easy to maintain support for a wide variety of ways to use your library.

In the past few years, i've increasingly felt like i should look at either Vue (which i already use at my day job) or Svelte, or even Angular for my personal projects.

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rat9988 1568 days ago
What would classes have brought to the table with syntactical sugar? Especially that themselves are syntatical sugar on functions.
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tristanMatthias 1568 days ago
I love lit. Smoothest developer experience with a very small learning curve.

Curious, what do you use for state management across WC’s?

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