[NicoJuicy]

I think winning could be done by 2 ways:

- holding out long enough, if it depleets Russia of resources ( aided with sanctions)

- internal protests in Russia ( considering huge amount of relatives on both sides), that goes out of control - I don't know if this is realistic though. But I think the relative factor between those countries ( family members) can outwit the propaganda factor

Those Ukranians are though as hell though. I'm sure we are seeing a more 'positive' side of them ( if that's possible in a war), but they aren't backing down. Uttermost respect for their president too. He seems to have a deep understanding of how he can reach the world.

[rodgerd]

There's the third option, which is that the Russian elites simply murder Putin and use his corpse to blame Russia's problems on, not unlike Stalin and the post-Stalin denunciations.

[NicoJuicy]

I consider it internal protest tbh

[rodgerd]

I guess that it's a substantially different internal protest than ordinary Russians.