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by linsomniac 1568 days ago
Agreed, hard to see how that could happen with Nebula, since there is no vendor that has your CA key.

Defined Networks version, however, completely controls your CA key, and could generate their own nodes. The config files they generate are plain text and can be inspected for "mirror traffic" configs (I don't remember if Nebula has that feature, ZeroTier does). Defined Networks has a pretty slick setup, which I can go into a bit further if there is interest, I've done an eval and ended up deciding it wasn't quite ready for our use.

Being mesh networks, one could do some examination of traffic to ensure that they aren't shipping traffic external.

With ZeroTier, there are also some "self hosted" options. I haven't dug too deeply into them. I really like ZeroTier, and wanted to use it for our work overlay network, but I'm a bit skeptical about the reliability. It's been good for my test use case, but last year they had some sort of controller outage and when I asked their sales people about it and how we might be able to run a backup controller, he said that sort of outage wasn't possible. When I asked what was meant by this specific tweet that ZeroTier sent out that said it had happened, I got no reply. :-(

ZeroTier is super slick, but I can't move our entire infrastructure over to something that could have an outage that would take out our infrastructure until some third party resolved it.

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I am highly interested in your review of these three software Defined network products, including slickness.

I also evaluated them, and decided I need a “zero trust” solution (well, or “less trusted” at least).

I thought ZeroTier doesn’t use a standard VPN tunneling protocol, and that’s not a best practice.