[musha68k]

I’m still wondering at which point diplomacy started to fail so spectacularly?

[jounker]

When Ukrainians overthrew Putin’s puppet Yanukovych back in 2014?

My personal opinion is that Putin was never negotiating in good faith. He was negotiating as a stalling tactic while prepared and/or waited for the most opportune time to invade.

[dgellow]

Yes, I agree, it has never been in good faith. Putin is a fascist, in the true sense of the world. His ideology is based on a "natural order" in which the strong dominate the weak and a past dream of lost glory. When he's using the "blood and soil" argument or he's talking about fighting against degeneracy it's not by mistake. If you look a bit at the ideology popular among high-ranked Russian, their behavior for the past 15-20 years make more sense.

For example, you can check:

- the book "Foundations of Geopolitics ": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

- its author and "philosopher" Aleksandr Dugin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin

Putin has a long-term vision and strategy to build a fascist empire, he has been working on this for decades.

[lvl100]

I think it’s 2011 when NATO flipped on Libya. That’s the exact moment Putin stopped being friendly to the West.

[musha68k]

So basically he is afraid. Dangerous.