[mardifoufs]

It's frustrating to have to doubt the ukrainian side here but there is absolutely 0 proof of any of those downed russian planes. There are tons of pictures of crashed planes in this war, whether it's those crashing on russian or ukrainian territory... except for those claimed by the ukrainian government. The official ukrainian sources are pumping out tons of disinfo, and I understand why! But it makes it hard to believe anything they say

[NonEUCitizen]

You should doubt announcements from all sides at this stage. Wait a few days or weeks for some facts to emerge, with no expectation that they will be what you hope for. And for many things, we will never know.