[ganzuul]

Or all their talent made itself scarce when they saw the writing on the wall and what they have left is scriptkiddies who are capable of defacing a website when given a target to take down.

It's bad to underestimate the enemy, but also bad to overestimate them.

[excalibur]

It's bad to make so many powerful enemies.

[ganzuul]

Hopefully Putin realizes they has no more claim over whatever holy grail they are chasing than anybody else.