[tluyben2]

When I was younger, decades ago, I always wondered why investors keep saying we need to have customers and revenue first before plonking down millions; why would I need investors when I have paying customers?? Then we got paying customers, customers paying millions/year and we found out why we need investors. Not all businesses do but even little more than slow growth is pretty hard when bootstrapped; we exhausted bank loans pretty fast as they are too conservative.