[chrisandchips]

I’ve reflected on this argument recently but I struggle to see the real logic behind it. Putin claims he wants Ukraine as a neutral zone between russia and NATO. He then proceeds to invade Ukraine … if successful, territory under his control (whether explicitly shown or not, he could instil a puppet government) will now border NATO countries. How does that provide him with any security ?

[igravious]

Proximity to the Russia heartland presumably. Flight time of missiles to key military positions within Russia.

I'm no military strategist but how is this not obvious?

It's not about a neutral zone, it's about a buffer zone between more sensitive areas and where NATO can place troops, tanks, and missile systems. I mean a sea separates Alaska from north-east Russia and those places are deep into permafrost territory and then there's the entirety of Western and Central Russia between Moscow (say) and there. Russia is huge. 90% of the Russian population live in the 10% of Russia that is considered part of the European continent.

It's like nobody bothers to study geography or geopolitics before they open their mouth these days.

[maccolgan]

Russian Federation I guess will guarantee the security of Donetsk and Luhansk and liberate further Russian-speaking areas.