[andrewjf]

I don't disagree with the ecosystem argument, nor the argument that poorly thought out architecture is a big cause, as well. I don't think having a GC de facto makes you more productive and that's worth arguing about itself.

My point was that having the ability to perform "fearless refactoring" to improve architecture and adapt to changing needs of the software needs ruthless type system support to catch the non-obvious areas that you just broke and make sure that API contracts are still correct and to make sure you're not deserializing random stuff into `interface{}` or worse, `Any`, `Value` or `void *`.

[simion314]

We had strong types and languages that allowed that before Rust, I do not understand why would people push Rust everywhere and not focus on the stuff it is actually good at like low level stuff where performance and safety is needed.