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by nobleach 1573 days ago
I keep hearing this on places like Reddit. I see memes parroting this. But with all the right-wing folks I know, I've yet to hear ONE say they actually think this invasion is a good idea, or that Putin is a good guy. I even visited Townhall.com for the first time in like a decade just to see what "the right wing" had to say. And... it's not there. No one other than Donald Trump has actually taken Putin's side. I just now went to check Newmax as I was certain THEY would be lending this support. But no... it simply isn't there.
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Not even Trump "has actually taken Putin's side".
"A congressman from New Jersey has disclosed that he is receiving calls from viewers of Tucker Carlson’s primetime Fox News show, expressing distress at the Biden administration’s backing of Ukraine in the tense military stand-off with Russia."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/25/tucker-carlson...

>But with all the right-wing folks I know, I've yet to hear ONE say they actually think this invasion is a good idea, or that Putin is a good guy.

How many right wing folks do you know?

Edit: Here's Candace Owens with 3M followers implying that the first air strikes in Kyiv were the work of NATO because Putin said he's only attacking the eastern parts.

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1496699449535602696

If I bring up 2 examples of leftists being as pro putin as the 2 examples you have linked does that make both sides ( ;) ) pro putin? Because finding anti-Nato leftists isn't that hard at all.

Seriously, from everything I have been seeing going from meme accounts to trump aligned figure heads, there has been an overwhelming support for ukraine (while criticizing biden of course but that's still not being pro putin). Yes there are some on right who are but thats because the right isn't a monolith. Imo it's just unhelpful and it reeks of terminal partisanship mentality when even a pretty bad situation like this is used to score points against the other side using cherry picked examples even if it's so easily disproven. Inevitably it also turns into a "the other side is not as willing to go to war as we are so they are against us"

There are plenty of American leftists taken in by Russian propaganda because it plays to their biases, but the difference from the right-wingers who have been in that the leftists are marginalized politically, whereas a number of the right-wingers are influential, several in major media, some federal elected office-holders, and some people discussed seriously as Presidential candidates for 2024.

Now, part of this is the asymmetry of American politics where leftists, qua leftists, are generally marginalized, but it goes beyond that.

I looked her up. I don't think she's that popular though, eg. https://twitter.com/i/status/1497628050829332482

Her posts have 8 k. upvotes sometimes, that's still pretty low.

So we have a guy saying that he's receiving calls against Biden's support of Ukraine. Certainly we have something more verifiable than that, right? That insane tweet by Candace Owens, yep. That is the type of thing I'm looking for. What I'm not seeing is some overall support from "the right".

If this were some big Russian support smear campaign by the right, certainly we should see it in all their normal channels, right? I really do not feel like visiting any more right wing sites to prove my point. The simple fact is, we read comments like the grandparent, and we're supposed to believe that Russian support is wide-spread. The truth is, aside from a couple of nut-cases, both sides of the aisle seem to overwhelmingly condemn this invasion.