[deutschewelle]

Good response I will concede that lithium seems our best bet given the current situation but I think ICE cars still have lot of room for CO2 reduction. While we are on topic of cars, I would slap additional environmental tax for old classic cars or straight piped V8, V10, V12. One does not need so many cylinders to get from point A to B.

[Melio]

You know idle games?

Like when you have level 1 unlocked and lvlq creates a lot of money and you are at the point to continue to buy more and more expensive upgrades for lvl 1 or to save up to start to invest in lvl2.

If the market can just do what it does with ice cars and in parallel work on ev I would totally agree. We could do much more with ice.

But we know that there is a huge necessary investment curve for ev. When is the right time to stop investing money time and brain time for ice and start putting it in EV?

I believe they are not independent.

Funny enough I think old companies are getting more frightened then ever afer Tesla, apple, Sony, Amazon are investing into ev development.

Independent of this, ice to ev transition takes already relatively long in Germany and similar countries. This will take even more time in countries with less GDP.

Do we have the time to wait?

[bluGill]

For ICE we are chasing the final 0.1% improvements. There are a few of them left, but each round eliminates more from the future things to find. Even if they all work out, total we are looking at most a couple percent improvement.

The same applies (maybe worse) to electric motors, but the efficiency of electric motors is substantially better.

there is a fair amount of work yet to be done with Batteries, but even there we know theoretical limits and are closing in on them. (Ask a chemist what they are). if you want to make a contribution to cars battery technology is currently where there is the most room for a big improvement.

Note, I have no idea what the costs for any of the above is. It maybe that ICE investments are still more cost effective. I doubt it, but I don't know. Not matter what improvements will be expensive.

[deutschewelle]

80% is the theoretical limit and we are struggling to get past 30% but I forsee dramatic economic incentives to increase this a lot higher. Doing so might raise costs of production however

[rootusrootus]

80% is the theoretical limit for what? AFAIK the theoretical limit for an Otto cycle engine is somewhere around 46%, and we're getting pretty close already.