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by mikeyouse 1582 days ago
When Hillary was running, Russia had just invaded Ukraine the first time. So Russia intervened in US elections to get someone more pliant elected. This war and any “aggressive” posture toward Russia is entirely of Moscow’s making.
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nopenopenopeno 1582 days ago
Russiagate has been handily debunked, and its premise was always stupid. No country on Earth has meddled in nearly the number of foreign elections as the USA. This is universally understood history. It’s not up for debate. Only the propagandized American domestic population would have even considered Russiagate a newsworthy scandal. And only the propagandized American domestic population would have interpreted it as anything short of a failure on the part of America’s own leadership and commercialized election system.
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mikeyouse 1582 days ago
Ah yes. "Debunked". There's literally no serious doubts about whether Russia interfered to assist the Trump campaign. The only real question was whether any of it was coordinated.

Who spear-fished Podesta again? As well as the DNC? And 4,000 other Clinton-related email addresses? And why did that same group also attack the World Anti-Doping Agency, MH17 researchers, senior NATO members and Russian political opposition and journalists?[1]

Who was Manafort providing internal polling data to, and why was that worth forgiving $20 million worth of loans? [2]

When even the Republican Senate Intelligence committee has this to say, it's clearly "debunked"[3];

> The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multifaceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Parts of this effort are outlined in the Committee's earlier volumes on election security, social media, the Obama Administration's response to the threat, and the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment.

Here's what Mueller had to say, sure, "debunked"[4]:

> The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016. In June, the Democratic National Committee and its cyber response team publicly announced that Russian hackers had compromised its computer network. Releases of hacked materials—hacks that public reporting soon attributed to the Russian government—began that same month.

[1] - https://www.secureworks.com/research/iron-twilight-supports-...

[2] - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/08/manafort-rus...

[3] -https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/docu...

[4] - https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

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