[LudwigNagasena]

“Nazi” is often used as a general slur against nationalists.

[jacquesm]

No, it usually isn't. It is usually used to talk about white supremacists of a particular ideological bent.

[LudwigNagasena]

The only time when it isn’t, it’s when it is used to mean anything vaguely bad.

[homonculus1]

"White supremacist" is also a slur against nationalists...

[jacquesm]

It is possible to be a white nationalist and not be a white supremacist, but there is considerable overlap between these groups.

[selfhoster11]

Unless the nation happens to be majority non-white.

[coolso]

This argument can only be made in good faith if you completely ignore the events of the past 5 years, where anyone who was outspoken but didn’t tow the CNN/neolib line on just about any of the big issues was either directly or indirectly called a fascist or a neo-Nazi. Regularly.

[jacquesm]

It's perfectly possible to be a fascist without being a neo-Nazi.

And CNN doesn't set policy or make people say fascist things.

[ajuc]

There is nationalist party in Ukraine and they got 1% in elections. The elections were free and every term somebody else is in the government. Surprisingly never the nationalists tho.

Also they want to join EU (as all nazis do of course).

Meanwhile actually nationalist and imperialist Putin invaded 3 different countries during his 22 years of governing Russia. And he hasn't held fair elections there for a long time.

So yeah Ukraine is nazi.

[LudwigNagasena]

I didn’t say that Ukraine is Nazi.