[dogma1138]

Putin never actually wanted to join NATO, some of his demands were that as Russia joins there is no more need for any US presence in Europe as well as he wanted Russia to be exempt from rule of law and the democracy requirements that NATO has.

[scaramanga]

Wait... Isn't Italy in NATO?

[dogma1138]

Haha funny joke. Turkey would be a better example due to recent events but Spain is a more appropriate historic example as it wasn’t allowed to join until 1982.

[scaramanga]

But I'm (ethnically) Italian so I feel a bit safer being judgemental :)