[wonnage]

People are very much missing this point; there is no value judgement here over what "should" be happening.

There has always been clear red line; if NATO is attacked, we're starting WWIII. If a non-NATO friendly country is attacked, we'll complain loudly and declare sanctions.

Ukraine is not in NATO and we should've behaved accordingly (i.e, not sponsor a coup)

[glogla]

"We" (whoever that is) did not "sponsor a coup". Stop spreading misinformation. What happened was that the Ukrainian people were sick of Russian puppet and kicked him out - at great cost, he murdered a lot of them.

[gutitout]

It wouldn’t surprise me if it was a coup. Don’t forget Biden and his sons “business” there. It’s at the very least a valid theory.