[Yoofie]

> Russia has been dislocating extremely threatening weaponry right on NATO doorstep and treating it as its holy right, for a long time.

You got this exactly backwards. NATO has been expanding towards Russia and is seen as aggressive by Russia. NATO/US "graze" Russian and Chinese airspace aswell - whats your point? This is just military tactics 101.

>But Ukraine thinks about joining NATO and Russia has no choice but carve out some of its territory? And it’s the west’s fault?

Ukraine is a buffer state. When your buffer state is being armed and funded by your political enemies, you draw a red line. When you cross a red line and you fail a diplomatic negotiations, what do you expect to happen?

[rich_sasha]

Yes yes yes. Russia is a peaceful country, just somehow surrounded by festering wars. Ukraine, Georgia, Chechnya, not to forget its brainchild North Korea.

But sure, it’s everyone else’s fault!