[GlobalFrog]

Completely agree with that. Belarus has already joined its armed forces with Russia and they are de facto part of Russia today, even if it is not in a formal way (yet), and exactly the same will happen to Ukraine after the consolidation you mention. I'm pretty sure also that there will be some consolidation in NATO too. My bet would be on Finland joining formally NATO in the near future. Finland was already invaded by Russia in WW2 during which they managed to seize the Karelia territory of Finland, which is still in Russia today. But there are other countries which are probably wondering what will happen to them in the next few years: Georgia, Azerbaidjan, Armenia... So maybe the best asnwer to Russia would be to expand NATO quickly to the ones wanting to join in.

[tonis2]

Finland hasn't joined nato exactly cause, they want to keep the heat low and can defend themselves.

[CRConrad]

Opinion here has swung significantly pro-NATO in the last week since the above was written.

For instance, I think it's not one but two separate Citizen's Initiatives for joining that have each gathered enough signatures to qualify for debate in Eduskunta, the Finnish Parliament. (Not that it was all that far below that before this either.)