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Not dubious claims, misleading claims. ITER is designed with the goal of achieving Qplasma=10, which is energy break-even, but not electricity break-even, which as Sabine points out is at around Qplasma=20 (for ITER specifically, had it been designed to achieve electricity, in theory).

That Sabine has a point that some media outlets miscommunicated the Qtotal, it does not mean every article that does not mention Qtotal is somehow a scam. Qtotal is only relevant for project in which achieving a positive Qtotal is actually a goal, which it isn't for any of these projects.

What Sabine doesn't mention is what the theoretical limit of Qplasma actually is. ITER was explicitly designed for Qplasma>=10 to save costs. There's no other reason why Qplasma couldn't be higher. It's just money that is the limit.

People quoting Sabine should get this in their head, ITER was not designed for generating electricity. Its Qtotal is intentionally lower than 1. Yes there have been journalists who got important details in their articles wrong, but anyone who knows anything about these reactors is not being mislead by the ITER or JET experiments.