[amunster]

Even the analog cars will have some level of telemetry now. For example, a 2015 WRX STI will record maximum RPM, maximum speed, key cycles since last flash/ battery disconnect. Not exactly a black box data recorder, but enough evidence to deny a warranty claim caused by over-revving the engine, if the warranty rep cares to look.

The BRZ has anti lock brakes, stability control (on a toggle switch), and drive-by-wire throttle with input filtering. It makes for a smoother, safer experience.

A bicycle is analog.

[spike021]

You're definitely right. I suppose when I was referring to analog, I just meant capable of all operation without being connected to the Internet of Things.

[amunster]

Sure. The MySubaru app for the 2022 BRZ gives me a list of green status. Tire pressure and ten other categories. I’m not sure how the car sends the data out, because it’s not connected to WiFi directly. Bluetooth to the app and then out to the cloud? I use CarPlay too, is cell data shared with the head unit?

As a normal consumer this feature is convenient. As a car enthusiast, it’s not any worse than it was before, unless Subaru started including a data recorder. The problem is not because it's connected to the internet.

Back on topic, it would be nice if manufacturers disclosed what data they record. And in the case of Massachusetts, exposing it read-only to the consumer. If they can do it for OB2 decades ago they can do it for max rpm, air/fuel learning and other metrics.

[spike021]

Oh really? Dang, I guess my comment is only relevant to the first gen, then. We don't get any of those monitors or anything over network. Just OBD or canbus.

That's a completely fair point. At least when it comes to OBD you can mostly figure out what data is made available, and even then there are usually enthusiasts who dig deeper to find other random metrics being logged. Plus you can get something like an Ecutek or OFT that can do additional datalogging.