[na85]

>I think people got spoiled by Macbook touchpads- no, and I mean NO, Linux/Windows laptops out there have a comparable touchpad to the Macbook. What the Framework has is good for what's available.

That's a dealbreaker for me. I'm not one of those people that carries around en external mouse and stuff. I bought a laptop for a reason. "Better than the hot garbage trackpad on my wife's Dell" is not good enough.

[TranquilMarmot]

Then sad to say you will be stuck on Apple hardware for the foreseeable future. It's all a matter of preference, too- I used to have a newer Dell and thought the trackpad was totally fine.

[na85]

Yeah, I've resigned myself to paying the apple tax for a while.

My wife has a recent (2019-vintage?) Dell XPS and I can't stand using it. It's just a horrible machine, despite Windows 10 supposedly being good.

- Sleep when closing the lid barely if ever works (netflix keeps playing, etc.)

- When it does sleep, the network doesn't work when you wake it back up (have to reconnect to wifi manually)

- Randomly spinning up the fans when it's supposed to be asleep. Wake it up to discover windows update decided to do whatever it does

- Trackpad just doesn't work well in general. Lousy palm rejection, fiddly multi-touch

- Camera is on the bottom of the monitor so everyone on zoom gets a great view of your knuckles, and up your nose.

It's like nobody at Dell dogfoods their own products. It's just a thoroughly shit-tier machine.