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by fristechill 1584 days ago
>"When you rely on incentives, you undermine virtues. Then when you discover that you actually need people who want to do the right thing, those people don't exist." —Barry Schwartz

Quite so. And things may be worse than that. It may be that both incentives and virtues are unreliable. For example, the famous day care study mentioned in Freakonomics casts doubt on the utility of incentives when it comes to social problem-solving:

https://sites.google.com/site/cvhsbahm/economics/econ_calend...

Moreover, my guess is that virtues themselves may also be unreliable because they're are about outward behaviour, which is often inherited and not explicitly understood, and which may not be passed on.

Jacob Bronowski, scientist and author of The Ascent of Man, identified the primary scientific virtue as what he called the habit of truth. This is to rigidly tell the truth about all things, both in private and in print, including about the minutest details, in one's scientific work.

It is a matter of opinion, but it seems that the habit of truth no longer pervades the scientific enterprise, now fully professionalized and bureaucratised.

Perhaps it was lost because it was only a habit. Whereas the love of truth, beauty, and so on, are spiritual values: modes of being rather than habitual outward behaviours. Which may explain why (according to Ed Dutton and Bruce Charlton), many 20th century scientific geniuses were first generation atheists. They inherited a reverence for truth and reality; they were able to make important scientific progress, but their ardour could not be sustained beyond a generation or two.

https://geniusfamine.blogspot.com/

2 comments

I started a PhD believing that scientists still held on to the habit of truth. The gradual realization that modern science rewards bullshit artists, and that great research happens in spite, not because of today's science culture, is one of the most bitter disappointments of my life. I feel robbed of one of the main reasons to be proud of being human.
I think your account is a common one, unfortunately. I’m at the age where many of my peers are in grad school in a variety of disciplines, and while I’m not proud of my disillusionment, it scares me on behalf of them when the conversation reveals that their expectations aren’t matching the reality. I wish they knew what they were getting in to.

This is also why we can’t let science evolve into a religion, for what it’s worth. It can’t be the core of human spirituality: it’s too human of an institution.

> For example, the famous day care study mentioned in Freakonomics casts doubt on the utility of incentives when it comes to social problem-solving

Technically it mainly casts doubt on monetary forms of incentives. But it also mentions there are other kinds of incentives too.