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by SSilver2k2 1582 days ago
Oof. Not a good look for edge.

I'll be the first to admit I think this protest is about a bunch of idiots with a victim complex. They should just get the vaccine like 90% of the rest of their profession have done. It's safe and is what anyone should do to help their fellow humans.

The Emergencies Act is law. If Edge wants to do business in Canada they have to follow it. I don't see this ending well for them.

Maybe I'm an old curmudgeon, but I also don't want to see ANY financial company using memes in an official press release.

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As a mid-30s sw engineer, I’d say it’s a good look. I hate professional facades and meme’ing is how people communicate now. I’d also say the first part of your your last statement is probably correct, in that you might be an old curmudgeon ;)
Not OP but dropping a professional facade is often the first step on the road to actually becoming unprofessional. Not something you want from a company dealing in finance.
It's cryptocurrency.
I’m sure you’ll begin to appreciate professionalism when your employer starts trying to pay you in memes
Or crypto.
It's not a good look for the Canadian government.
Do explain
Emergency is the favourite tool of tyrants
According to Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_i...

...in the US, there are ~40 (after counting the green squares twice it seems there are now 41) ongoing "national emergencies" declared since the passage of the "National Emergencies Act" in 1976.

The oldest one seems to be from 1979 and involve sanctions on Iran from the hostage crisis.

Biden has declared five emergencies; Trump declared nine (that haven't ended), Obama also declared nine (again ignoring ones that ended), GWB declared eleven, net, Clinton declared six, net, and surprisingly all emergencies between 1979 and 1994, roughly did come to an end.

Regardless of what one thinks of it, it's curious that for a couple of decades, the norm was for emergencies in the US to end and now it's not.

Asset seizure is a big step, I agree.

They should just cut off their mobile data. Going without Joe Rogan podcasts and Jordan Peterson tweets will eventually hit hard.

As far as I know, the law does not demand asset seizure, but freezing. And the frozen accounts will be unfrozen when the emergency order expires or is lifted. The goal is to prevent the use of assets right now to finance blockades, not to deprive people of their property forever.
People that argue this seem unaware of how dreadful freezing assets can be. 30 days without funds means you can't pay any debt, can't pay for food, can't use transportation, etc.

I don't believe "The goal is to prevent use of assets right now to finance blockades," it's clearly an intimidation tactic against "undesirables."

I do think that is the goal. These are protestors with heavy, portable living quarters, after all; if you can't move them, you've got to cut off the money they use to live.

If governments don't come down hard on using heavy vehicles for blockades, and don't do what they can to stop that being a financially supportable method of protest, it will be repeated everywhere, like the Gilets Jaunes model of protest.

But ultimately I think it would be better to make life miserable for them by degrees, rather than attacking their personal finances.

So the Spotify/Peterson idea was a sarcastic joke (which humourless people have downvoted), but why _not_ make it difficult for them to protest by making it hard for them to buy stuff, or by making it difficult for them to return to their cabs when they leave them? Why not make the protests less liveable?

The thing about non-vehicular protest is that it eventually fizzles out; people make their point, they endure some notable hardship, it makes the press, they make their point and they move on. Generally this is how protest brings about small changes. But it's inherent in the process that it's difficult, extreme and inappropriate to permanently disrupt.

There is a balance, and protests are designed to attract law enforcement; civil disobedience, arrest and being very publicly removed by the police is ultimately part of the modern mechanism of protest.

Road-blocking with a truck in which it is presumably quite routine to be able to exist in a little more comfort for a few days at a time is another matter, and if the response does not reflect that, it'll go on forever.

It's a clever idea, but just because it has clever and innovative advantages over e.g. chaining yourself to a fence doesn't mean that it should be granted a pass.

Either the protesters and the police come to some point of collusion about what their very public arrest and removal will look like, or something ultimately has to be done to stop them disrupting forever.

>Why not make the protests less liveable?

Protesting during multiple weeks in winter is already unliveable. I live in Canada and would probably not do that unless the issue is life-or-death. Using extra-judicial means to quell opponents is not what our government should be doing, be it by freezing assets, preventing exchange of goods or other. One of the basis of modern democracy is due process and executive/legislative separation.

> They should just cut off their mobile data.

I understand that one of them has a Starlink dish set up on his truck.

Is he the guy who is responsible for distributing the bitcoin?

https://web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=2022-02-14-2

A bunch of idiots with a victim complex? That’s a rather jaded viewpoint.. how did we get to a place where being skeptical of habitual liars is seen as idiotic? Where fear is seen as a victim complex?
> Oof. Not a good look for edge.

Predictable one though.