[micromacrofoot]

it seems more likely that factors like continued poverty and unfair policing and incarceration rates (minorities are both stopped more frequently and punished more severely) are to blame for both violence and the resulting culture, as these are things we have actual evidence for

blaming culture and ignoring measurable factors is almost always lazy racism

[s1artibartfast]

I think you are missing my point. I specifically avoided blaming culture. If you magically fixed policing and hiring discrimination tomorrow, it would still take generations for blighted communities to overcome their current inertia. I am simply saying that additional factors exist and are relevant.

Yes, we e have evidence that incarceration is detrimental to outcomes.

We also have data that uneducated single parents are detrimental to outcomes. We also have data that criminal and drug addicted parents are detrimental to outcomes.