[userbinator]

I'm in the Java ecosystem, where IDEs are pretty much ubiquitous.

All in all, I don't see the link between using an IDE or not and the quality of the outcome.

That seems to be a pretty good link to me already...

I worked (briefly, fortunately) with Java for a short while a long time ago. The fact that even "small" Java projects are often ridiculously overengineered and so complex that an IDE is almost obligatory to work with the code in any meaningful way should itself be a sign of what dependence on IDEs tends to cause. The article mentions that too, and my experience agrees.

[pvorb]

So you're thinking less of Java in general. I won't argue on that, because neither of us will change their mind.

But the author was basically saying that you can write better Java in an editor than if you were using an IDE. And this doesn't make sense to me. The code a skilled programmer will write with or without an IDE won't be that different.

[greiskul]

Try working with Kotlin. Much saner language then Java, way less verbose, but with equally good IDE support.