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by engineer_22 1581 days ago
What good is "freedom of speech" if you can only talk to yourself?
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Freedom is speech isn't the freedom to make people listen.
Great. You have the freedom to speak, as long as it’s only in your head or into a corner where no one can ever hear you.

Freedom of speech doesn’t mean the freedom to make people listen, but the government can’t make that choice for people.

"make people listen"

Like, coercion? As in, physically restrain someone so they must engage with my ideas?

No, we're talking about a situation in Ottawa where people are blaring their truck horns for hours at a time with a complete lack of regard for how the citizens of that city feel about it.
Oh, I thought we were talking about freedom of speech.
You clearly listened to me. I didn't spend any money on that. Case in point.
I'm afraid I don't understand your argument.

Maybe it would be clearer if you told me what "freedom of speech" means to you .

You have the right to talk all you want. You don't have the right to force anyone to listen to you, nor to prevent others from pursuing their daily lives. Nor does freedom of speech imply that your speech is free from repercussions. The government (federal, state, or local) cannot prevent you from saying most things, or retaliating against you. But most everyone else can within the bounds of legality.

Freedom of speech means you can stand on the corner and yell about the "undisputed benefits of cryptocurrencies". It also means me and a group of my friends can surround you and sing "Baby Shark" repeatedly at the top of our lungs, drowning out your message.

Freedom of speech means freedom to speak. We're speaking freely right now, aren't we? And I didn't have to create a website or an ad or pay a graphic designer or any of the many things claimed in that Twitter thread.
Maybe you don't pay to use the internet, but I do.

If the government froze my bank account so I couldn't pay my phone bill, I wouldn't be free to speak to you right now.

That's not true. You just wouldn't be free to speak on this medium.

I don't have the right to speak in the Queen's bedroom in Buckingham Palace, either.

Neither of those things are significant limitations on the freedom of speech.