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by twobitshifter 1582 days ago
The company I’m with now makes promotions without salary increases. The salary increase comes in the next review cycle when you’ve proven that you can do the job. It seems very unusual to me, has anyone else seen this?
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So you get promoted, then have to do that job at a lower salary than the position should get you.

Once you get the raise at the review cycle, is this also back paid for the time you were under paid for the role ?

With overlapping bands, it’s not necessarily the case that you were being underpaid (in a cosmic fairness sense).

If you are a level N Foo and doing well (as determined by doing some amount of level N+1 work), you might be earning the top of the level N Foo band. If that’s above the bottom of the N+1 band, you might be making the same as or more than the most recent N+1 hire.

The day the company decides that your level “rounds” from N to N+1, you might already be being paid the exact correct amount.

Design of pay scales and how they interact with promotion thresholds is complex enough that many fair systems can evolve. Most systems have evolved to slightly underpay the “almost N+1” employees for a period of time, leading to the expectation that promotion come with an immediate salary bump (and often companies do that to make the promotions “feel bigger”), so maybe the problem is promotions under that system should come with back pay rather than the situation described here being the one where back pay is owed.

At my place (not software), they ask me to perform the job at the next level, in order to prove that I can do it, before promoting me. They also require that at least 2 years are spent at each level. And during Corona they didn't promote anybody, meaning everybody`s career slid back by up to an extra year, depending on where u were in the cycle.

I would've much preferred if they had promoted ppl and done salary increases later.

Pretty cunning, I bet whoever thought that one up got a raise (in the next review cycle).
sure. usually more common in places where workers have low self confidence and don't think they could do better. if only they knew what opportunities were out there
Are there many well paid good jobs for people with low self confidence? Ie can low self confidence people actually get those jobs by passing the interviews and succeeding in the role etc?