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> Judging by your post history, you seem to be more interested in stirring up shit than actually contributing to the discussion.

I'm not, and I'm pretty sure your accusation violates site guidelines.

> This bizarre defence of noisemaking jackasses fits with that.

You should note I'm not defending them or their actions. I just think it's ridiculous hyperbole to call what they're doing "literally torture." If the ancestor comment had simply said they were being annoying and disruptive, I wouldn't have responded at all.

[msrenee]

But it is literally a form of torture.

[throw10920]

Exactly - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation#Interrogatio... there we go, right there.

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> Exactly - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation#Interrogatio... there we go, right there.

So are you going to set up crimes-against-humanity tribunals to prosecute all the noisy neighbors of the world for being torturers?

And were those truckers performing interrogations that I haven't heard about? Your comparison is as ridiculous as comparing compulsory school to prison. Yeah, you can find some similarities, but you're missing important differences that undermine the comparison.

[msrenee]

I don't follow. Torture doesn't have to be used as part of an interrogation to be torture.

And in the noisy neighbors scenario, are they just loud as a by-product of their self-centered preferences or are they making noise intentionally to make everyone miserable and get something they want? Either way, they are causing sleep deprivation and constant stress, which is a form of torture. In the second scenario, it's even done intentionally as a means to an end. Even so, folks are rarely prosecuted for crimes against humanity even for the most grotesque mistreatment of under a dozen people.