[BiteCode_dev]

So, don't use the internet, a smartphone or a laptop.

Because there is a TOS or CLUE coming with Android, iOS, Windows, MacOS, Firefox, Chrome, Edge...

I'm assuming you didn't even read the TOS/CLUE required for you to post this comment.

Don't shop online, at all.

And I'm assuming you do, and didn't spend hours reading the TOS of all the sites you shop from.

Don't send messages.

Are you self hosting your email server ? Have you read your email provider TOS ? Each chat service TOS ? I doubt it.

Don't what videos on youtube. Don't search on google search. Don't use GPS.

You do that right ? Or have you actually read TOS for each service ?

If you said yes to all of this, either you are lying, living in a cave, or you are Richard Stallman. In which case, nice to meet you.

[jdkjs]

I don’t read tos (as in contracts of online services) but I don’t cry when something unexpected happens because I didn’t read them.

It’s my right to sign contracts without reading them. It’s not my right to pretend I didn’t sign them because I didn’t read them.

[BiteCode_dev]

So you are ok with a system that is created to legally bind you to something you don't know and can be used against you later unless you take tremendous efforts to not be?

In that case, ok.

Most people are not, and it's reasonable.

In fact, it's terrible that we have to rely on lawyers because the law is so complicated you can't know or understand it all, just to live you regular life.

But TOS are even worst. Because they are asymmetrical. You don't get some right and some duty. Only duty for you, and rights for the other party, which is already economically and socially in a position of strength compared to you.

And no, it's not acceptable to tell people to accept that or live in a cave.

I don't have a google account attached to my android phone. This makes my life more difficult in all sort of ways, because society assumes more and more than I do.

So I'm just being punished because I don't want to give my life to a big corporation.

I understand people think it's BS. You should not have to do that.

[jdkjs]

Of course you get rights: the right to use the service!

[BiteCode_dev]

You already have that right. At least in my country, by law.

The TOS is a layer on top of that right that corporations abuse to make that right conditional to their own laws.

EDIT: Arf, just looked at your comment history and now I understand I'm loosing my touch. One person answered:

"Could you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to HN? You've been doing it repeatedly, and we ban that sort of account because it's not what this site is for."

I missed the troll :)

Ok, you win. Have a nice day.