[collegeburner]

Police states tend to reduce crime very well. They're still wrong. And i hope if somebody like you ever gets power and tries to do this Americans resist them by force.

We should uphold the Constution as it is now and remove every single gun law.

[maxerickson]

Citizen resistance against a modern military is largely a LARP fantasy.

[nathanaldensr]

You assume that:

1. there are enough armed forces personnel to police the third or fourth largest country by land mass in the world (the United States)

2. that every single armed forces personnel would unquestioningly obey what constitutes illegal orders (military deployment on American soil)

3. that the entire population would simply sit down and let themselves be overrun by the military.

I think you should check your assumptions.

[dragonwriter]

> there are enough armed forces personnel to police the third or fourth largest country by land mass in the world (the United States)

If you count the standing paramilitary forces (“police") that work for the government and do this job already, plus all the other armed forces, that's not that much of a stretch.

> that every single armed forces personnel would unquestioningly obey what constitutes illegal orders (military deployment on American soil)

Military deployment on US soil is not illegal. (That would make defensive war, as well as suppression of armed rebellion, impossible.)

Military deployment to enforce domestic order isn't illegal, either, though for federal regular military troops there are procedural requirements for it under the Insurrection Act (mostly, a completely discretionary Presidential determination of one of several specific kinds of need—some of which involve a request from a state governor and some of which do not—and particular notifications to the civilian population and any potential insurgents before employment of the military for certain uses.) State forces not called in to federal service may have their own procedural rules for law enforcement deployments, but most state forces can also be activated federally under federal rules.

[maxerickson]

I'm assuming that superior weapons, tactics and organization matter.

And if elements of the military are involved on both sides, it's not exactly citizen resistance anymore.

[collegeburner]

Nah counterinsurgency is very hard to win actually. See Afghanistan.

Regardless this is why citizens need modern military equipment.