[Sandvich]

All Apple has to do is what they already do with "Sign in with Apple". Just require everyone who uses third-party payment to also offer Apple's services.

That one little step would avoid the regulation they're going to be hit with.

[Andrew_nenakhov]

Apple should be wristslapped for forcing developers to use their sign in method, too.

[duped]

As a user I'm a huge fan of it. It's how I use a lot of services these days without tying them to an email account.

[Andrew_nenakhov]

I'm not a fan of any coercion. If their solution is good, people will use it voluntary, like all other social auth buttons.

[duped]

I do use it voluntarily. I think more user choice is good.

[Andrew_nenakhov]

You don't see contradiction here? Apple leaves you, the developer, no choice.

[duped]

I'm not a developer in this situation, I'm a user. There's no contradiction. Apple makes my user experience better by forcing app developers to play by their rules.

[rexf]

While Apple's sign on sounds good on the surface, the reality is more user confusion.

For each app, you have a new button to consider / remember which one you used:

* Login with email

* Login with Google

* Login with Facebook

* Login with Apple

[duped]

I don't believe in treating users like they're dumb.

There's a "keep me signed in" feature too. Or if this is a serious source of confusion, use local device storage to keep track.

In practice I don't consider anything for each app. If it's worked I used gsuite. If it's personal I used Apple. OAuth is the new "same password used everywhere" but now we click logos.

[jamesgeck0]

The difference is that Apple's sign in is beneficial for non-technically savvy users, as it both allows using an anonymous email alias and alleviates the need for password creation. Those are both reasonable privacy and security trade-offs for a tiny bit of (generally reversible) ecosystem lock-in.

[clusterfish]

Tiny bit? Try and migrate dozens of app accounts to a non-Apple email, as a non-technical user. Disregarding the sheer amount of work, such users won't even know how to send emails from the private addresses they signed up with, making it hard for app developers to identify them. It's always about control and lock-in with Apple.

[littlecranky67]

To add to the other threads, Apple Sign-in is only required if you use any other sign-in providers (Google, Facebook, etc.). Since Apple Sign-In allows anonymous signup, I like this rule (remember back then when Tinder forced you to use Facebook Sign-In?).