[Youden]

You might not realize it but there really are people who honestly, genuinely, in their heart-of-hearts think this way and if you want to have a chance at inducing real change in the world, you need to acknowledge that they exist and see things from their point of view.

It's easy to forget but not everyone lives in a bubble full of privacy-conscious techfolk. There are people whose children were groomed online and convinced to submit themselves to sexual abuse. There are people who were those children. There are the law enforcement officers and NGOs dedicated to fighting this stuff. These people are all real. They all exist.

Other people are parents. They see the stories, they worry that it'll happen to their own children. Whether you like it or not, this justification garners sympathy from a not-insignificant number of people.

Often, these people don't understand E2E encryption or why they should give a hoot about it. They see the very real, tangible problem of child abuse on one side and some kind of vague objection from technical people on the other.

If you want to move past venting and have a real chance of inducing change, you need to acknowledge that other people with very different worldviews exist and you need to think about how to engage with them, see things from their point of view and convince them that E2E encryption should be protected.

[heavenlyblue]

Why are the people against E2E get a 500K government grant FOR MARKETING and people towards E2E don't?

[CodeGlitch]

This is the best comment in this thread.

I would add that some may see E2EE as important, but protection of vulnerable as *more* important. Life just isn't so black & white.