[remus]

> Maybe I'm just old-school, but I expect when I visit a site I'm leaking some PII (my IP address) to every router between my client and latimes.com to do with as they will.

Presumably you don't expect the american government to get involved after your request has reached latimes.com though?

[shadowgovt]

Technically, the only thing stopping them is SSH, and that can be handled (as Snowden publicized) by tapping latimes.com's systems on the other side of decryption.

Old-school me would not have expected that to happen. Post-Snowden? It's a definite possibility.

[martin_a]

> Old-school me would not have expected that to happen. Post-Snowden? It's a definite possibility.

And... Is that a "favorable" (hope that's the right word, non-native here) thing?

[shadowgovt]

It's neither favorable not disfavorable to me; it just is. Something I file away in the back of my head about how the Internet works right now. Individual uses can be favorable or disfavorable.

If I walk into a store and buy some gum, my face is on their security camera. If the cops are hunting for a murderer, they can pull that camera feed. Is this favorable? shrug. I like my privacy but I also like catching murderers. And I have no expectation of privacy when I step in someone's store; similarly, once I've shipped 1s and 0s to someone else, my expectation is they'll use them as they will, and if I don't like it I'll stop shipping 1s and 0s to them.

This is probably just my American sensibilities talking, but growing up in a culture where I was building a credit score before I knew what that was, I'm not surprised services like Google Analytics are e-gossiping on my preferences (any more than I'd have been surprised if two BBS owners, back in the day, gossiped about their users).