[rsanheim]

I agree that many meetings are often useless and much could be gained if more folks could learn to express ideas and debate and converse in long form writing (not slack messages, not what passes for code review at many shops).

I don’t think that contradicts Rands’ main tpoint that something significant is lost when a good discussion or debate or rant can only be held over video conf. Modern management dictates endless meetings to justify its existence, but that is largely a separate issue from the fact that a truly “alive” face to face human interaction can not be replicated by current tech, not even close. I’ve worked primarily remote for 10+ years, but I still cherish the times when a good team I was on got on-site to debate or argue and then figure out a way forward and plan it out l. I think it can be easy to forget that with the rise of remote-first jobs and endless travel restrictions we live with.

The highest bandwidth conversation is done in person, and I don’t think tech has really come close, regardless of how far it has come. I hope that gap narrows and more younger folks can experience what they have missed if their only real job experience has been done over zoom and slack.

[bckr]

I think what's being left out of this conversation are "quick syncs"--the equivalent of coffee breaks or "can we look at something together?"

These are what I desire to have (that and grabbing lunch together) and why I'm looking forward to <100% WFH