[gherkinnn]

According to 2018, Tesla trucks should be in production last year.

He’s a well of stupid ideas and false promises. Trucks, Cybertrucks, FSD, robots, tunnels, going to Mars in 2025, using Dogecoin for interstellar purchases, uploading our brains and sending that in to space.

The list is endless.

[inglor_cz]

This discussion sounds a lot like Reddit. Haters vs. fanboys.

A lot of Musk's business proposals or projects either didn't work or didn't keep to the promised timeline. Some of them did pan out, though. The US now relies on Falcon 9 to get astronauts to space and back. The list of human-rated launch vehicles since Gagarin is pretty short, the very opposite of endless. And people were scoffing at the idea of usefulness of a reusable rocket just weeks before the first successful landings happened.

I also rode a Tesla shotgun. It is a nice car, even though expensive and overhyped. But that isn't the same as vaporware. Traditional car makers suddenly had to compete with a newcomer - after how many decades of a mature market?

If you mentioned those two, I would be inclined to consider your take as more balanced.

[gherkinnn]

Yes. Falcon is nice. And it is admirable how Tesla made electric cars palatable. Remember the Prius?

[xondono]

Musk has cornered de market for wishful thinking

[ganzuul]

If you have ever tried to bring an idea to reality before, you know very well that it is hard to predict if your idea is going to be stupid or not in advance.