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by Southland 1586 days ago
What are the odds that 3 separate, years-old accounts came out of the woodworks within the last hour to make their only comments of all time to support this post? 3/14 of the only comments as I make this...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30275812

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30280084

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30277488

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They could have sent the link to friends, some of which did not have an account yet but wanted to comment?
You either automated your lazyness out of busting fake praising accounts or what are the odds someone will spend their time browsing commenters' profiles to catch this? lol

I appreciate the effort and good will

I have no idea about the odds and didn't bother to look up the timeline but I can give you some anecdata and tell you exactly why I might have theoretically been the 4th lurker-become-excited-commenter for this post, were I to read this first on the computer instead of on my phone (and nearer real time than on a following weekend) and less hesitant to post comments in general:

I find json to be a PITA to parse as a human when looking at getting a bigger picture or keys/values that are strewn away from each other and not just e.g. two values next to each other. Anytime I have to do something with it, I have to search through my history to dig out some jq invocation and then try to tweak it correctly to do what the (most of the time similar but also different enough) task at hand needs. My mind sadly just seems to be unable to sufficiently grok jq.

So when I read here about jless I was stoked and the excitement was strong enough to want to dig out my login credentials and make a comment along the lines of "This is AWESOME! Thank you so much for making life easier!". In the end, when I logged in on the computer and had reflected more, I opted to upvote a comment instead and then saw this thread; so thank you, I guess, for providing me an opportunity or excuse to express my enthusiasm in addition to that.

I consider my discovery of jless (which sadly I was apparently not able to make on my own while searching the internet for json tools previously - so yay for lurking on HN :-) - but it might also partly be the relative (to my predicament) youth of the tool) of similar importance to me as macros in vim or back in the days using bluefish for editing HTML as they all save my time being spent on doing tooling to do things and instead allow it to being spent on doing things directly. (BTW thanks to all these devs!)

Just my 2 cents :-) (and I'm not particularly interested in starting or partaking in any further discussion)

Isn't it also against Hacker News policy to go posting comments accusing other commenters as fake?

It just degrades the discussion as seen here.

Also, pretty sure that Hacker News has automatic detection for fake comments so no need to do manual moderating I think.

I give him credit for planning ahead.
I mean OK, cool, you have checked, but IMO that's not very relevant.

I genuinely enjoyed the promo site and immediately installed the tool and tried it and loved it. Check my comment history if you like, not a bot or anything, just a normal programmer always in need of more tools to enable and improve his work.

Oh no. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You go to do what you go to do to promote your side hustle :)
>You go to do what you go to do to promote your side hustle :)

No, not here.

Its "Show HN..."
And here it's directly mentioned in the guidelines of how 'Show HN' should work:

https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html

> Please don't ask friends to upvote or comment. That's not ok on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#ring

> Can I ask people to upvote my submission?

> No. Users should vote for a story because they personally find it intellectually interesting, not because someone has content to promote. We penalize or ban submissions, accounts, and sites that break this rule, so please don't.

> Can I ask people to comment on my submission?

> No, for the same reason. It's also not in your interest: HN readers are sensitive to this and will detect it, flag it, and use unkind words like 'spam'.

You've basically turned an entire sub-thread on a Show HN into a low-quality distraction based on your un-provable (to you) accusation, and subsequent doubling down...all of which, as multiple people have tried to remind you, is breaking the rules:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#:~:text=Ple....

Also, you can't cite the rules as some fake justification for your flouting the rules. Abusing the rules to pretend that, because the thing you, without proof, accuse someone of is disallowed, it somehow makes it OK for you to break the rules to post these disallowed accusations...is wrong. You're undermining the very thing you're merely pretending to support here. Which makes it seem like you never cared much for the rules in the first place, but only for some weird personal vendetta or whatever against this post. Whatever your reason, none of this is OK, on HN. Or anywhere really.

Please stop.

Ha! Says the anon account with not even two pages of comments in 4 years

Why not use your real identity if you're so confident your claim is good?

That's pretty creepy and a bit disgusting to post that on someone's Show HN. Be a nicer human!

Tho.. Yeah... Sadly it does say something about how much HN can still improve it's response to Shows that people get so suspicious if there's too many positive comments and not enough negative ones--that they go looking for 'proof'.

My claim? My post said - what are the odds all of these old accounts appeared out of the blue to post their first comment here? If you are taking that question as a personal insult, I'm sorry you feel that way.
Haha, you know you can't apologize for someone's feelings, right? Their feelings are their responsibility, not yours. But your actions are your responsibility. Trying to incorrectly apologize for someone else's feelings is not owning your responsibility, and doubly bad because you seem to suggest that the problem is not your action but someone else's reaction which is incorrect. So if you feel you need to apologize, you can only do so for your actions. Got it? So go ahead, if you want to apologize, your can say, "I'm sorry for posting that"

The problem with that post is it's unnecessarily mean and you don't actually have any data to back up that claim, it's just speculation and a nasty one at that. It degrades the tone of discussion on a Show HN which is inappropriate, and is not what is aimed for here. If you feel there's an issue then email the mods, as they can take a look at the real data. Don't make baseless and cruel speculation on someone showing their work. Got it?

You might be onto something. See https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/i-almost-got-banned-h...

But messaging the mods to investigate is the better strategy.