[rmak]

Feminism is never about equity or equality between sexes. The most straight forward and correct definition of feminism is women wanting to be equal to or surpass rich and powerful men. Women never wanted to be equal to average men. Average men are disposable. Women had it better than men almost everywhere since the beginning.

Feminists are out rightly man hating. They are not allies of men/boys. They start killallmen trend, they started endfatherday, feminists support not jailing women for anything, NOW, the largest feminist org in the us oppose shared parenting, feminists in Canada shut down male dv centers....

[skinkestek]

> Feminists are out rightly man hating.

Some of them. Many are reasonable. I even have one to thank for doing as well as I have done.

The problem is I can't see many of them distance themselves from the toxic elements you mention below.

I'm squarely in the camp that women and men are born with equal worth but different abilities.

I also think society and every human has a duty to protect the weaker ones from abuse by the stronger ones, but unlike many others I won't tolerate abuse of men and especially young boys as a punishment for what other men have done long ago.

[stuckinhell]

I don't really agree with you except I do think pop culture "feminism" is becoming much more of "man hate" club in the last couple years due to social media amplifying our worst impulses.

The killallmen trend ESPECIALLY is the reason I don't like calling myself a feminist anymore. As the mother of two young children, a boy and a girl, it scares me to think to think people would hate my son just because he's a boy.He's 13 and is struggling with depression. It's become very clear to me that many young girls his age really enjoy repeating that horrible horrible slogan as a form of bullying.

I've been really thinking about enrolling him into a private school over this madness.

I think things have gone too far.