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by icebraining 5390 days ago
Terrible, just terrible ideas.

This is looking only through the perspective of the content creator, ignoring the client. We're only just know trying to add some structure to the content, and we already have Microformats, RDFa and Microdata, all with incompatible formats and semantics. Now we couldn't even rely on the semantics of HTML?

He sees the web as a app distribution mechanism and the browsers as just dumb viewers. I think the web is much more than that: it's an information distribution mechanism, and that's only possible if there is standardization of protocols and formats.
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tolmasky 5390 days ago
I think you are focusing too much on the admittedly very unfleshed out proposal for a solution, and less on what I think matters most, which is the acceptance of what I believe to be a problem with the web.

Perhaps this is my fault for ending on that point, but do you also disagree with all the other paragraphs? I ask this honestly, because if we can just agree on that much, then I totally agree that there are a number of options that are worth discussing to make the web competitive in a way that scales again.

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icebraining 5390 days ago
I think the HTML/CSS/JS part of the web is competitive in certain domains, and native apps on others. Frankly, I don't see the problem with this. Walled gardens are certainly a problem, but there's no need to throw out the baby (native apps) with the bathwater.

As for plugins, I've never seen them as benefit. Either you're a big player and then you can influence the direction of the web, or you're just some random guy and your plugin is irrelevant because no one will download it just to see some websites.

There was an SVG plugin way before browsers supported it natively, but could any web dev actually rely on it?

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tolmasky 5390 days ago
So you honestly never saw the benefit in having video on the web thanks to Flash? Remember that even today HTML 5 video is not fully supported.
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icebraining 5390 days ago
I think Flash gave browsers the 'excuse' to postpone the implementation of a real standard solution, that we're only know seeing the first steps of.

I bet we'd have seen the video tag on browsers years ago if Flash wasn't there with a poor (GPU acceleration only last year, FFS!) but working solution.

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