[rmellow]

> they are just not very security minded (or knowledgeable)

I argue that they are definitely knowledgeable and capable of security. The nuance is they care about their own security, not the users'.

Case in point: Their MacOS installer abuses the pre-installation step to fake a System prompt to obtain root, very much like malware. Before you actually click install, it's already done [1].

In this case it was merely a shortcut to reduce the number of clicks to install, but it clearly betrays their disregard for user control & security.

[1] https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/zoom-mac-one-click-i...

* SEO Bonus: I couldn't find this article on Google no matter what I queried for. But DuckDuckGo found it on my first attempt.

Guess abusing SEO to hide negative press is among their tactics as well.

[debrice]

A solution is only as safe as the most reckless and less knowledgeable person with root access they employ. I'm convinced they have lots of knowledgeable people, but they proved over and again that they also have many bad apples cutting corners and putting everyone at risk.