[wNjdbfm]

I have a Tesla Model Y and I love it so much. I also paid $10k for “full self driving” and I’m in the beta program and I’d ask for a refund for that if I could. It behaves unpredictably - sometimes it seems smarter than you could imagine and then it does something that seems obviously dumb. That unpredictability makes it stressful to drive because being ready to take over instantly means trying to predict what it will do. I couldn’t live with myself if it did something I wasn’t prepared for and someone got hurt. So I don’t use it. It’s unfortunate that Elon has gone all in on self driving being the future of Tesla because they built a hell of a car on its own merits.

These Tesla threads are always tense but there’s a lot of important discussions to be had about Tesla and FSD wrt technology and society. That said user: omedyentral seems to be farming anti tesla rage both here on HN and on their Twitter page. I’m not sure that’s in the spirit of what HN is trying to be.

[ra7]

There are a lot of people out there who think Tesla FSD is close to completion, even on HN. What’s wrong in showing the reality of where Tesla stands in terms of a safety critical technology using real world footage?

There are anti-{FB, Google, Big Tech} posts on HN all the time. I’ve never seen anyone say that’s against the spirit of HN. What makes Tesla special?

[heavyset_go]

> That said user: omedyentral seems to be farming anti tesla rage both here on HN and on their Twitter page. I’m not sure that’s in the spirit of what HN is trying to be.

It's actually your post that is against HN guidelines[1]:

> Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email [e-mail] and we'll look at the data.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[wNjdbfm]

TIL. Thanks.

[andrepew]

"That unpredictability makes it stressful to drive because being ready to take over instantly means trying to predict what it will do."

I feel this. I rarely if ever use autopilot because I find the cognitive load and stress of monitoring it to be higher than just driving the car myself. The exception to this is when the road is absolutely empty.

[toast0]

> I’m in the beta program and I’d ask for a refund for that if I could.

I don't know what the FSD license says, but I'd look into Lemon Laws in your state. If any other part of your car made you have legitimate concerns about your safety, you'd take it back; same thing should apply here.