[sokoloff]

> Spotify, like Facebook and Amazon, has the advantage of being odiously indispensable. No matter how much people grow to hate the service, they cannot envision life without it.

Are you kidding me? If you don’t like something about Spotify, switch to Amazon or Apple music, Pandora, Tidal, Qobuz, Deezer, or a dozen others.

This seems like “As much as I dislike Bing, I cannot envision life without it!”

[ss108]

Pandora is in no way a replacement for Spotify.

With Tidal or Amazon, can I just import my Spotify library in? How do I know they have all my music?

Search engines are not the right analogy here.

[12ian34]

I know your questions were rhetoric but on importing Spotify to Tidal, I've recently tried it and it was not as smooth as I hoped so gave up for the time being. Tidal recommend a 3rd party. I went to their website, selected Spotify -> Tidal, then read something about it only transferring 500 songs for free. You need to PAY for a SUBSCRIPTION to do this one off job and it isn't cheap ... so I quit the process before signing in with auth0. I scoured GitHub for good Spotify to Tidal python libraries and couldn't get any to work. I then thought I'd just make my own since I have the nice JSON export of my Spotify data, but then then couldn't find details on an official public Tidal API so totally gave up and now my free trial has run out. Tidal have lost a customer and I'm stuck with Spotify when what I really want is for bandcamp to have a better app, more geared to long music listening sessions, with playlists.

[ss108]

Thanks. My questions weren't purely rhetorical. I do want to actually know the feasibility of ditching Spotify, and this comment may save me some time in terms of figuring out how to export to Tidal if I want to.

[commoner]

> Pandora is in no way a replacement for Spotify.

Pandora now offers on-demand streaming as a subscription service (Pandora Premium), just like Spotify. This has been available since 2017, after Pandora acquired the assets of Rdio.[1]

Pandora's music discovery features are best-in-class, but its maximum audio quality is lower than that of other services (192kbps vs. Spotify's 320kbps).[2] Pandora also pays artists less per stream than Spotify and most other services do,[3] probably because Pandora has a huge proportion of free users.

[1] https://www.engadget.com/2017-03-13-pandora-premium-music-st...

[2] https://www.highspeedinternet.com/resources/how-much-speed-d...

[3] https://producerhive.com/music-marketing-tips/streaming-roya...

[ss108]

Oh cool, I'll look into it and see if they have a free trial.

Combining Pandora's superior discovery functionality with Spotify's ease-of-use and control would be great.