[bamboozled]

> Many humans. Rich life (individual freedoms and high material quality of life). Low environmental impact. Pick two.

I really don't buy this, it seems illogical to me.

We have technologies that can produce a rich and comfortable life with much less or zero emissions, nuclear, renewables. We don't need to fuck stuff up as bad as we have. We've fucked stuff up this bad because of lobbying, resources companies have lobbied and fought long and hard to keep selling this poison to the world. To keep us buying cars that use petroleum. To keep people believing that it's either oil and coal or you're going back to the stone age it's bull shit because oil and coal is the stone age.

If you buy into those technologies I've mentioned above, you don't really have to entirely give up the life you know, in fact you might get to keep the life you love and have cleaner, better air to breathe.

We've woken up, but we still have those cretins doing their dirty work (the Australian Government for example.

We've woken up but it might be too late now.