[randyrand]

“Fake Cities” don’t have nearly enough complexity.

I agree they could start there, but you’ll graduate quickly without having learned much.

The main question is, are we willing to put people in harms way today for the benefit of future humans? The answer seems pretty obvious to me. Drunk humans are considerably worse than this and are not going away anytime soon. If we can solve self driving just 1 year earlier it’s equivalent to saving 30,000 American lives.

Put another way, if you want rules that delay the advancement of self driving driving cars, you're effectively murdering 30,000+ American lives every year.

[ChuckNorris89]

> If we can solve self driving just 1 year earlier it’s equivalent to saving 30,000 American lives.

That strawman argument works if you completely ban all human drivers the moment we solve self-driving.

The big question is, when exactly do we consider self driving solved that it can ban replace drivers? All current evidence points it's very, very far away, if ever.

[salawat]

Uh... You'll never stop running into problems that require a driver to take conttol. Automation is only as reliable as the sum of it's parts. Can't wait to see the first set of failures that prevent automated driving back of defective units under their own power without a human backup option.

[ChuckNorris89]

>You'll never stop running into problems that require a driver to take conttol.

That's pretty much the nail in the FSD coffin.

[Jasper_]

There's no guarantee that computers will end up being any better at driving than humans.

[erulabs]

I'm not trying to defend self driving to Tesla here, like, at all, but I don't agree with this statement.

Evolution has gifted us with a phenomenal device, the brain, but evolution is extremely cautious and conservative. There is very little reason to expect that human innovation won't catch up and surpass evolution. 10,000 years from now, I expect self-driving will work perfect. 10,000 years from now, our brains will (unless modified by our technology) largely be unchanged.