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> There is no solid evidence that voter id laws have any impact on voter fraud... Describing them as "anti-voter fraud laws" is literally true but dishonest and dishonesty is bad.

Agreed. Republicans talking about widespread "voter fraud" are liars.

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So why do you think these laws are “reasonable” to use your word if you admit that the primary reason people say we need them is a lie?

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Requiring citizens to produce a photo id to vote is reasonable regardless of lies certain people tell to push the idea.

Similarly, a carbon tax is reasonable even though proponents lie and claim climate change will kill us all.

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But you admit it doesn’t accomplish anything. It isn’t reasonable to create laws with no purpose.