[yepthatsreality]

No, considering they don’t encrypt Iphone backups in Icloud.[0]

[0] https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/21/apples-icloud-backups-are...

[shmoe]

Yes they do.. they just have the decryption key.

[ohCh6zos]

They only offer encryption with a known compromised key. How is that useful?

[shmoe]

It isn't.. but here in reality they're forced to respond to requests by law enforcement for things such as CSAM -- this is the problem they were trying to solve with the on-device scanning. The plan was this would allow for backups they would not have a key to, and thus be unable to respond to law enforcement.

[pseudalopex]

Here in reality other companies have end to end encryption.

[shmoe]

Do they? Consumer level? Or are you able to view your files in the cloud which inherently implies they have that key.

[pseudalopex]

I said end to end. Why would you ask if I meant not end to end?