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by slyzmud 1595 days ago
Have you tried Youtube premium? We always say companies should move out of the ad revenue model and start charging for the services instead of pushing more ads. For me, paying Youtube premium has been a great decision.
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Here’s the problem - if you don’t already watch a lot of YouTube the non pay version is such a bad experience that you avoid watching on it so you’d be unlikely to want to pay for it.
Seconding this comment. I grumbled at first about paying for it but frankly after more than a year I’ve come to realize it’s money well spent considering how much use my family gets out of it.
We as a society have become allergic to paying for services. It's understandable but detrimental in the long term.
I figured this out about a year ago. As well as ad-free viewing I get YouTube Music, so I don't need to pay for an additional music service.

Now, if they would only stop with the censorship. When in the history of mankind have the censors ever been the good guys?

>>When in the history of mankind have the censors ever been the good guys?

I mean.....removing pedo or gore content from Youtube is still censorship. Just the kind that we probably all agree with. The way you view censorship(and censors) mostly depends on whether they remove content you want removed or not, and that line can massively vary even in western societies(for instance I love the fact that in Germany any nazi-related content is actually criminal, but many Americans gasp at the very concept - however the line is there even in America, but it's just placed in at a different point).

> When in the history of mankind have the censors ever been the good guys?

It's not called censorship when it is the right and reasonable thing to do. In many cases, it is simply decision making done collectively by society. For example, we don't tend to allow blatantly religious proselytizing in public schools by teachers. Is that censorship? Maybe? Is it controversial? Not really.

Education is actually a good example -- as decisions are constantly made in terms of what is and is not made available to students. It's easy to find decisions that are blatantly wrong -- for example, banning "A Big Mooncake for Little Star," which is a book about a little kid eating a cake. (But there are other choices that are obviously correct, such as banning books in school libraries that are blatantly misleading.

Whether something is considered censorship is often a matter of perspective.

It doesn’t feel that great to help a company that’s dominating video hosting to help them muscle into the music streaming business through a bundle offer. But otherwise, yes: we might all be better off if Google made more from subscriptions and less from ads.
Since the end of WW2, Germany has made spreading Nazi propaganda and denying the holocaust illegal.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/germanys-laws-ant...

I agree with you 100%. I've had it for quite a while. When I see Youtube without being logged in, I really can't imagine using the at all with the current level of ads - it's gotten way worse in the past few years.

I also like having access to YouTube music but like so many things with streaming, you're not certain to get continued access to stuff you like. I've started buying MP3's of songs that I like again so that I don't have to worry that Google will stop carrying the music any more or raise prices on YouTube Premium to a level I don't like.

I have less and less trust for the big companies that provide these services so I'm focusing more on self-hosting and some form of ownership. It's not just MP3's. I'm also making sure that I'm using FOSS for my note taking (Joplin), backups (duplicati) and other such things. Some of this stuff is too valuable to me to risk losing access to.

I'd buy YouTube premium if YouTube was still an independent company. Even if paid YouTube doesn't serve you ads, they are still collecting analytics you and building out your Google profile. No thanks.
They are doing that if you don't pay too.
Right, so I just use AdBlock, PiHole, and NewPipe. I'd pay but I'm not gonna pay and be the product at the same time.
People aren't going to pay for companies they've had enough of. People open to the idea of paying would pay to companies that would treat them better.
Honestly I’ve been interrupted by relentless pleas so many times for YouTube premium that I just don’t consider it a “positive” thing. I could cancel my Patreon payments to the content creators and redirect that money to Google, who would then give a small fraction of it to the creators. That doesn’t seem like I’m dealing with an ethical hosting service.

I’ll probably look through the Patreon pages in a few weeks, see who I still care about, and see if they have alternative video feeds that aren’t so ad littered. Those can remain, the rest I’ll cancel.

I use Premium too! Also try threatening to cancel and it will lower the price :P
It does feel like a bargain, all things considered. Plus you get YouTube Music.
I want to support the content creator first and foremost. That's not how premium works.
I know the creators get at least some of it. I have no idea if it's more or less than they would get with ads. I also pay for premium, and I'm fine with Google getting some of it. After all, it's not free to host and stream millions of petabytes of data. I really enjoy YouTube without the ads. It might actually be one of the last videos streaming services I'd get rid of.
I'm pretty sure there's an LTT video where Linus says he makes the most money-per-view from Premium users. Unfortunately I can't find it.
How does Linus make money? - 2020 Update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zt57TWkTF4