[GauntletWizard]

People are being forced to wear masks as a form of humiliation. People are being forced to present their vaccine cards as a form of humiliation. People are choosing to wear stars of David as a comparison of the two.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

[bastardoperator]

This is blatantly false, and the Jews didn't have a choice which is why no one takes these pretend victims seriously. If you're feeling humiliated that says more about you then it does the people that understand how simple barriers(masks) work. Thanks for the explanation, it's laughable at best.

[FooBarBizBazz]

You have to wonder if they know how absurd their comparisons are.

It's weird how people want so, so badly to be in some counterculture. And to be "owed" something, in the moral accounting. That Green Day song plays in my head, with the music video: "I Want to be a Minority!"

I guess we sort of have a word for this, ressentiment? It's close, but not exactly.

[sershe]

People in Soviet Union (and in Russia, still) have to carry an internal passport (distinct from the regular passport, that is called smth like "foreign-travel passport" in Russian). The cops can legally stop you on the street and ask for ID. If you don't present your internal passport (or similar), they may take you to the police station "to determine your identity" at their discretion. Happened to me personally with an expired internal passport on my literal birthday that it expired on, I was about to go to a police station cause I didn't have much cash on me for a bribe, but they decided to let me go because hey, it's my birthday.

Vaccine cards (I am vaccinated and boosted and would have done it based on my own decision making) feel significantly similar to me. As in Russia, when dealing with totalitarian aspects of government, I find it easier to just comply, but if I had more free time on my hands I would refuse to show the card on principle. Needless to say politicians advocating for these would never get my vote...

[sedan_baklazhan]

In reality, I was asked for a passport once in 8 years in Russia.

[sershe]

That really depends on what you look like. I used to have long hair and wear leather jackets and band t-shirts and I was stopped about once every 2-3 months... then I got a job, cut my hair, etc. and I was stopped a couple times in 4 years. But, I had a girlfriend who lived in student dorms, and Central Asian guys living there claimed they get ID checked pretty much every day.

That's what's beautiful about giving government arbitrary power that is so broad it is not always used "in reality" - it gives individual actors discretion to discriminate. Like with literacy tests to vote, war on drugs, etc.

[aakresearch]

Moscow cops have a sixth sense for non-natives. Even I was not looking like one, I was stopped, like, 8 times during my 3-months gig there. Carrying a few bank notes in the passport was an ordinary practice.

[sedan_baklazhan]

I never had any reason to bribe them. Are you talking about 1990's?

[bastardoperator]

Police ask for ID in Russia too? This might sound crazy, but police do this in the United States too. Failure to ID in certain situations (arrest) can lead to additional charges. Expired identification in the US is also invalid too.

Again, I'm not seeing the connection you're trying to make and if you want to see similar tactics employed by police in the USA, I recommend YouTube. The interesting part is I have a vaccine card and I've never been asked to present it. Then again, I was immunized to serve anywhere in the world when I joined the military and saw it as a perk when I travelled abroad.

[sershe]

That is in context of an arrest. In Russia, legally it's like a country-wide stop and frisk (stop and ID) with no requirement of suspicion or anything. Usually people who look like immigrants or some sort of "less-desirable" demographics get checked more, but sometimes they do just stop completely random people.

[bastardoperator]

I totally get it, but there is big difference between a police officer demanding photo ID unlawfully which happens often in the US to similar demographics and a business saying in order to keep my workforce safe I need proof of vaccine.

[sershe]

The mandates are not that though. The mandates are government forcing the business to demand the card, and shutting them down (with police) if they don't feel inclined to enforce it.

[GauntletWizard]

Jews were allowed to move around without their stars of David - in the ghettos, literally the origination of the term. Jews were not allowed to take part in wider public life without them.

[meepmorp]

The word ghetto comes from the name of the Jewish quarter of Venice, not from the Nazi ghettos.